tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2684536971172270103.post4883089175037508659..comments2023-10-09T12:06:17.459+01:00Comments on Emerging Writer: Poem for the Poetry BusEmerging Writerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06539530495238043923noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2684536971172270103.post-91902000324541770282010-11-22T16:09:53.482+00:002010-11-22T16:09:53.482+00:00Wonderful! Like it. Very clever.Wonderful! Like it. Very clever.Dave Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08430484174826768488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2684536971172270103.post-35232963936265001852010-11-22T15:49:48.647+00:002010-11-22T15:49:48.647+00:00A fine example of that proto-rap form, the kenning...A fine example of that proto-rap form, the kenning. This rattles along very pleasingly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2684536971172270103.post-64408462725761766612010-11-22T00:18:30.036+00:002010-11-22T00:18:30.036+00:00a kenning! the best ideas are definitely the ones ...a kenning! the best ideas are definitely the ones you wish you'd thought of yourself!swisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17924594772578153947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2684536971172270103.post-13545628003339707622010-11-22T00:10:02.255+00:002010-11-22T00:10:02.255+00:00How revealing in so few lines! I feel as if I know...How revealing in so few lines! I feel as if I know you now.<br /><br />Titus has me back in Senior English! When I decided to leave teaching, I said that if I had to teach Beowulf one more time, I'd give myself to Grendel!Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12003379181294550035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2684536971172270103.post-67132857742432941452010-11-21T23:48:51.729+00:002010-11-21T23:48:51.729+00:00Continuing education with each passing week! Just...Continuing education with each passing week! Just reading all the comments. <br /><br />I hadn't heard of a kenning ... I enjoyed yours very much ~~ fascinating.Helenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16619199535376925989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2684536971172270103.post-23946069261313880602010-11-21T23:24:13.868+00:002010-11-21T23:24:13.868+00:00kennings are right in my style, thanks for the lin...kennings are right in my style, thanks for the link.<br />I love your world, I can see it!<br />Di<br />my ticket is <a href="http://blogdiannegross-giese.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"><strong>HERE</strong></a>Diannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18323454057921441274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2684536971172270103.post-81750385519606774762010-11-21T23:22:08.632+00:002010-11-21T23:22:08.632+00:00Yes Titus, foot-coats is also a bit special. Fasci...Yes Titus, foot-coats is also a bit special. Fascinating. I read some about it in Stephen Fry's The Ode less travelled. It's very mathematical.Emerging Writerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06539530495238043923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2684536971172270103.post-62496838984760901912010-11-21T23:20:06.224+00:002010-11-21T23:20:06.224+00:00Thanks everyone.
Peter. How do you mean Iggy used...Thanks everyone. <br />Peter. How do you mean Iggy used 3 alternatives? 3 lines? Rhyming? <br /><br />120Socks - glad to cheer. Yes, too many roles and tasks for one poem I think.Emerging Writerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06539530495238043923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2684536971172270103.post-25984739591713842932010-11-21T23:02:48.131+00:002010-11-21T23:02:48.131+00:00No, no, don't have to be! It's a way of g...No, no, don't have to be! It's a way of getting a start-letter you don't have to the front of a word.<br /><br />The Anglo-Saxon line has a break in the middle, and the two half-lines must alliterate. There are a number of ways of placing your words to do this, and the finest poems use the most technically and artistically accomplished patterns. <br /><br />So if the poet was working on<br /><br />My shoes protect me / made of fine fur<br /><br />he might coin the kenning<br /><br />My foot-coats protect me / made of fine fur.<br /><br />That said, scheme sparker is a bit special...Titushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16380213493011623153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2684536971172270103.post-58177271664232436572010-11-21T22:44:07.364+00:002010-11-21T22:44:07.364+00:00Great fun! I likes it. By coincidence one of my ef...Great fun! I likes it. By coincidence one of my efforts is a sort of list starting with 'I am'<br /><br />Happy nonetheless is a great way to be!Totalfeckineejithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05352708391465031655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2684536971172270103.post-13001038024263207622010-11-21T21:34:44.228+00:002010-11-21T21:34:44.228+00:00Never heard of a kenning, though Iggy McGovern had...Never heard of a kenning, though Iggy McGovern had a similar sort of poem reach the final of Strokestown a year or two ago. Except he used three alternatives. Fascinating!Peter Gouldinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13292063172122249202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2684536971172270103.post-54315325069749375262010-11-21T20:55:14.475+00:002010-11-21T20:55:14.475+00:00Forgot you are the Anglo-Saxon expert in our midst...Forgot you are the Anglo-Saxon expert in our midst. <br /><br />Should kennings be alliterative then?<br /><br />a perverse parker <br />a scheme sparker ...?Emerging Writerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06539530495238043923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2684536971172270103.post-77038261188184647842010-11-21T20:39:06.972+00:002010-11-21T20:39:06.972+00:00Ooh, ooh, that's so interesting for so many re...Ooh, ooh, that's so interesting for so many reasons. Poem itself great, though I think I'd have stuck with bogger even though you lose a bit of sense in what follows. Irish connection so very strong though, with the original.<br />And loved the thought of a rakish parker.<br /><br />Secondly, kennings are major feature of Anglo-Saxon verse (bit of a speciality, as you may recall). Because it was an alliterative meter, compound words were invaluable to get the right start letter, so they had nouns which were noun-noun, adjective-noun and adverb-noun, and adjectives which were noun-adjective, adjective-adjective, adverb-adjective and adjective-noun.<br />Engla-lond is itself a compound word (land of the Angles).<br /><br />But it was pure poetry on the part of the scop (poet) that turned the compound word into the kenning; it is much more sophisticated - a kind of condensed metaphor. Can't type in Anglo-Saxon, but here in modern English:<br /><br />The sea is the whale-way<br />A ship is a wave-horse<br />A minstrel is a laughter-smith.<br /><br />I award you hleator-smith of the day. Which admittedly is a masculine word, but goes well with the boa (feather-neck).<br /><br />I'm getting boring now. Best be off.Titushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16380213493011623153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2684536971172270103.post-90443592981214415152010-11-21T18:55:59.388+00:002010-11-21T18:55:59.388+00:00Feck it, eagle eyed Niamh spotted my typo. Thanks
...Feck it, eagle eyed Niamh spotted my typo. Thanks<br /><br />And I am not a bogger, not at all (gets on high horse and wades through the swamp into the middle distance)Emerging Writerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06539530495238043923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2684536971172270103.post-19928031189909678992010-11-21T18:46:01.240+00:002010-11-21T18:46:01.240+00:00A Kenning! What a pleasure! And I adore that last ...A Kenning! What a pleasure! And I adore that last "happy nonethelesser"!Enchanted Oakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14815997287116818456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2684536971172270103.post-73791372571786173062010-11-21T18:19:12.678+00:002010-11-21T18:19:12.678+00:00Bet that list could go on forever! What we do and...Bet that list could go on forever! What we do and what is expected of us can be exhausting for sure. Great poem, cheered me up and made me smile. Well done.Louisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05912071192179983603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2684536971172270103.post-81143368947071097212010-11-21T17:35:57.096+00:002010-11-21T17:35:57.096+00:00interesting - did you mean blogger or bogger thoug...interesting - did you mean blogger or bogger though? wouldn't really have thought of you in the latter light!<br />A cunning kenningNiamh Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06519443787482685320noreply@blogger.com